http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/23/super-congress-debt-ceiling_n_907887.html
So, first the Governors Panel, now a Congressional Panel? No debate, just up or down vote? What the hell is going on here!!!
Update:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/24/998018/-Super-CongressEnd-of-democracy?via=tag
This is freaking insane. The phrase "no taxation without representation" comes to mind.
This is got to be the worst story of 2011!!!! May Day! May Day! And from the George Soros controlled Huffington Post.
Senator proposes an unconstitutional Super Congress to deal with debt ceiling
Kenneth Schortgen Jr
, Finance Examiner
July 24, 2011
The ongoing battle between the House, Senate, and President over the upcoming debt crisis has led establishment Congressmen in the Senate to propose the creation of a Super Congress to create and pass legislation allowing for the raising of the debt ceiling. Led by Republican Senator Mitch McConnell, and proposed on July 24th during the weekend debt ceiling meetings, this new bi-partisan gang of 12 would unconstitutionally allow for laws to be passed solely by the group, and bypassing what they consider the majority of 'regular' members of Congress.
This "Super Congress," composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers. Under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his counterpart Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), legislation to lift the debt ceiling would be accompanied by the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers -- six from each chamber and six from each party.
Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. – Huffington Post
This proposal and attempt to rob the American people of their Constitutional representation is a desperate attempt by members of Congress to supercede the legislative process, and force an unwanted plan into being. Just as many Congressmen reported in 2008 that the Secretary of the Treasury Hank Paulson threatened them with potential martial law if a bank bailout wasn't passed using taxpayer money, so to is this a blatent attempt to circumvent the American system to pass a plan most Congressmen and representatives, as well as the American poeple, do not want.
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Politburo of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
 | The Politburo (in Russian: Политбюро, full: Political Bureau of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, abbreviated Политбюро ЦК КПСС, Politbyuro TsK KPSS), known as the Presidium from 1952 to 1966, functioned as the central policymaking and governing body of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. .... In reality, the Politburo was a self-perpetuating body that served as the executive branch of the Soviet Union, and its decisions de facto had the force of law (aka - making "policies"). It oversaw the operations of the Committee and made all major policy decisions, which it then passed down through the Central Committee, the Supreme Soviet and the Party Congress. Its control extended from the Party and into government because Party personnel held all key government posts and party discipline therefore ensured that Politburo policy was implemented by all government organizations. One of the few known instances of the Central Committee overruling the Presidium (as the Politburo was known) was the defeat of the so-called Anti-Party Group in 1957. |
more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politburo_of_the_CPSU_Central_Committee
http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/23/super-congress-congress-may-attempt-to-create-legislative-body-as-rumors-of-super-congress-begin/
Super Congress? Congress May Attempt To Create New Legislative Body, As Rumors Of “Super Congress” Begin
The Intel Hub
By Alex Thomas
July 23, 2011
With a startling headline that should send shock waves throughout America, The Huffington Post is reporting that two influential Senators have put forth a plan that would essentially create a new legislative body, a new super congress.
“This “Super Congress,” composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn’t mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers,” wrote Ryan Grim.
The plan, reportedly put forth by Mitch McConnell and Majority Leader Harry Reid, would create a new government body with six members from each party and would be used to pass unpopular debt ceiling legislation.
This plan would esstentially create a national high council of liberal and conservative elites who could completely circumvent Congress!
The Huffington Post
Legislation approved by the Super Congress — which some on Capitol Hill are calling the “super committee” — would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn’t be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who’d have the ability only to cast an up or down vote.
With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits.
Negotiators are currently considering cutting the mortgage deduction and tax credits for retirement savings, for instance, extremely popular policies that would be difficult to slice up using the traditional legislative process.
What would stop Congress from using this new governing body to pass other even more unpopular laws and regulations?
As of the writing of this article(11:35pm PST) no other mainstream news is directly reporting this 100% illegal plan.
With that being said, as an independent journalist I honestly do not believe that The Huffington Post would stoop so low as to make something this serious up.
One possible connection is the recent talk about a super committee to tackle the debt ceiling issue.
In the July 22 edition of The Washington Post it was reported that Rep. Boehner was pushing a new super committee similar to the one proposed by Harry Reid.
Top Republican aides said Boehner envisions a short-term extension of the debt limit that would include spending cuts that meet or exceed the debt limit increase. That would be paired with a strategy for finding additional savings. Options include a new super committee of the sort proposed by Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.).
On July 18, an editorial in The Washington Post mentioned a plan for a new super committee that would have full authority on all issues related to the debt ceiling crisis.
One twist to the McConnell plan involves creating a new congressional super-committee — yes, another commission — tasked with producing additional debt reduction measures by the end of the year. Unlike, say, the Simpson-Bowles commission, the committee would not have to achieve a supermajority vote, and its proposals would be subject to an up-or-down majority vote in both houses of Congress.
It is essential that this committee have jurisdiction to consider all elements of the budget: discretionary spending, entitlements and tax revenue must all be on the table, as they were for Simpson-Bowles. If so, then, yes, one more commission with the ability to force Congress to confront reality would be better than none. But we see little reason for optimism that this commission would succeed where others have failed.
If lawmakers cannot now agree on the kind of balanced debt-reduction package that every previous commission has recognized is necessary, why would such agreement be within reach several months from now? If there is no prospect of the Republican allergy to new taxes easing, or of many Democrats becoming more open to the kind of entitlement reform President Obama has called necessary, it’s not clear how any balanced proposal is going to make it through Congress.
Where or not this new Super Congress is connected to the super committee mentioned in the above Washington Post editorial remains to be seen.
Some have been quick to claim this is a harmless committee but in doing so they have provided absolutely no evidence for their claims. Congress has proven countless times that they CANNOT be trusted yet we are expected to trust them when they are openly giving themselves more, dictatorial power?
If this plan is actually in the works it may be a direct psy-op to incite the American people into open revolution.(Which would have disastrous implications)
THis is just INSANE!!!! We have been TAKEN OVER BY THE WORST OF CRIMINALS. Arrest all these anti-constitution rat bastards NOW!!!!!
FROM THE ARTICLE---
WASHINGTON -- Debt ceiling negotiators think they've hit on a solution to address the debt ceiling impasse and the public's unwillingness to let go of benefits such as Medicare and Social Security that have been earned over a lifetime of work: Create a new Congress.
This "Super Congress," composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers. Under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his counterpart Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), legislation to lift the debt ceiling would be accompanied by the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers -- six from each chamber and six from each party.
Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits. Negotiators are currently considering cutting the mortgage deduction and tax credits for retirement savings, for instance, extremely popular policies that would be difficult to slice up using the traditional legislative process.
House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has made a Super Congress a central part of his last-minute proposal, multiple news reports and people familiar with his plan say. A picture of Boehner's proposal began to come into focus Saturday evening: The debt ceiling would be raised for a short-term period and coupled with an equal dollar figure of cuts, somewhere in the vicinity of a trillion dollars over ten years. A second increase in the debt ceiling would be tied to the creation of a Super Congress that would be required to find a minimum amount of spending cuts. Because the the elevated panel would need at least one Democratic vote, it would be presumably include at least some revenue, though, if it's anything like the deals on the table today, would likely be heavily slanted toward spending cuts. Or, as Obama said of the deal he was offering Republicans before Boehner walked out, "If it was unbalanced, it was unbalanced in the direction of not enough revenue."
Super Congress? Congress May Attempt To Create New Legislative Body, As Rumors Of “Super Congress” Begin
The Intel Hub
By Alex Thomas
July 23, 2011
With a startling headline that should send shock waves throughout America, The Huffington Post is reporting that two influential Senators have put forth a plan that would essentially create a new legislative body, a new super congress.
“This “Super Congress,” composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn’t mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers,” wrote Ryan Grim.
The plan, reportedly put forth by Mitch McConnell and Majority Leader Harry Reid, would create a new government body with six members from each party and would be used to pass unpopular debt ceiling legislation.
This plan would esstentially create a national high council of liberal and conservative elites who could completely circumvent Congress!
The Huffington Post
Legislation approved by the Super Congress — which some on Capitol Hill are calling the “super committee” — would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn’t be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who’d have the ability only to cast an up or down vote.
With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits.
Negotiators are currently considering cutting the mortgage deduction and tax credits for retirement savings, for instance, extremely popular policies that would be difficult to slice up using the traditional legislative process.
What would stop Congress from using this new governing body to pass other even more unpopular laws and regulations?
As of the writing of this article(11:35pm PST) no other mainstream news is directly reporting this 100% illegal plan.
With that being said, as an independent journalist I honestly do not believe that The Huffington Post would stoop so low as to make something this serious up.
One possible connection is the recent talk about a super committee to tackle the debt ceiling issue.
In the July 22 edition of The Washington Post it was reported that Rep. Boehner was pushing a new super committee similar to the one proposed by Harry Reid.
Top Republican aides said Boehner envisions a short-term extension of the debt limit that would include spending cuts that meet or exceed the debt limit increase. That would be paired with a strategy for finding additional savings. Options include a new super committee of the sort proposed by Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.).
On July 18, an editorial in The Washington Post mentioned a plan for a new super committee that would have full authority on all issues related to the debt ceiling crisis.
One twist to the McConnell plan involves creating a new congressional super-committee — yes, another commission — tasked with producing additional debt reduction measures by the end of the year. Unlike, say, the Simpson-Bowles commission, the committee would not have to achieve a supermajority vote, and its proposals would be subject to an up-or-down majority vote in both houses of Congress.
It is essential that this committee have jurisdiction to consider all elements of the budget: discretionary spending, entitlements and tax revenue must all be on the table, as they were for Simpson-Bowles. If so, then, yes, one more commission with the ability to force Congress to confront reality would be better than none. But we see little reason for optimism that this commission would succeed where others have failed.
If lawmakers cannot now agree on the kind of balanced debt-reduction package that every previous commission has recognized is necessary, why would such agreement be within reach several months from now? If there is no prospect of the Republican allergy to new taxes easing, or of many Democrats becoming more open to the kind of entitlement reform President Obama has called necessary, it’s not clear how any balanced proposal is going to make it through Congress.
Where or not this new Super Congress is connected to the super committee mentioned in the above Washington Post editorial remains to be seen.
Some have been quick to claim this is a harmless committee but in doing so they have provided absolutely no evidence for their claims. Congress has proven countless times that they CANNOT be trusted yet we are expected to trust them when they are openly giving themselves more, dictatorial power?
If this plan is actually in the works it may be a direct psy-op to incite the American people into open revolution.(Which would have disastrous implications)
THis is just INSANE!!!! We have been TAKEN OVER BY THE WORST OF CRIMINALS. Arrest all these anti-constitution rat bastards NOW!!!!!
FROM THE ARTICLE---
WASHINGTON -- Debt ceiling negotiators think they've hit on a solution to address the debt ceiling impasse and the public's unwillingness to let go of benefits such as Medicare and Social Security that have been earned over a lifetime of work: Create a new Congress.
This "Super Congress," composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers. Under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his counterpart Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), legislation to lift the debt ceiling would be accompanied by the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers -- six from each chamber and six from each party.
Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits. Negotiators are currently considering cutting the mortgage deduction and tax credits for retirement savings, for instance, extremely popular policies that would be difficult to slice up using the traditional legislative process.
House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has made a Super Congress a central part of his last-minute proposal, multiple news reports and people familiar with his plan say. A picture of Boehner's proposal began to come into focus Saturday evening: The debt ceiling would be raised for a short-term period and coupled with an equal dollar figure of cuts, somewhere in the vicinity of a trillion dollars over ten years. A second increase in the debt ceiling would be tied to the creation of a Super Congress that would be required to find a minimum amount of spending cuts. Because the the elevated panel would need at least one Democratic vote, it would be presumably include at least some revenue, though, if it's anything like the deals on the table today, would likely be heavily slanted toward spending cuts. Or, as Obama said of the deal he was offering Republicans before Boehner walked out, "If it was unbalanced, it was unbalanced in the direction of not enough revenue."
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